Recordings & Info 67. Glasgerion

Recordings & Info 67. Glasgerion

CONTENTS:

 1) Alternative Titles
 2) Traditional Ballad Index
 3) Child Collection Index
 4) Mainly Norfolk (lyrics and info)
  
ATTACHED PAGES: (see left hand column)
  1) Roud Number 145:  (16 Listings)

Alternative Titles

Jack O'Ryan
Jack Orion
Jack O'Rion
Glenkindie

Traditional Ballad Index: Glasgerion [Child 67]

DESCRIPTION: The king's daughter declares her love for Glasgerion and invites him to her bed. He tells his servant of the tryst. The boy sneaks in in his stead. When the lady learns this, she kills herself. Glasgerion kills the lad, (then himself)
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: c. 1640
KEYWORDS: nightvisit love sex betrayal death suicide murder trick
FOUND IN: Britain(Scotland,Wales)
REFERENCES (10 citations):
Child 67, "Glasgerion" (3 texts)
Bronson 67, "Glenkindie" (1 version)
Percy/Wheatley III, pp. 45-49, "Glasgerion" (1 text)
Leach, pp. 222-229, "Glasgerion" (2 texts plus one "analogy")
OBB 40, "Glasgerion" (1 text)
Friedman, p. 71, "Glasgerion" (1 text, 1 fragment)
PBB 41, "Glasgerion" (1 text)
Gummere, pp. 340-342, "Glasgerion" (1 text, printed in the notes to "Lord Randal")
TBB 16, "Glasgerion" (1 text)
DT 67, GLENKIND
Roud #145
RECORDINGS:
A. L. Lloyd, "Jack Orion" (on Lloyd2, Lloyd3, ESFB2)
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "Jack the Jolly Tar (I) (Tarry Sailor)" [Laws K40] (theme)
ALTERNATE TITLES:
Jack O'Ryan
Jack Orion
Jack O'Rion
Glenkindie
NOTES: "Glasgerion" is believed to be an anglicisation of "Glas Keraint," a legendary Welsh harper said to be able to harp "a fish out o' saut water Or water out o' a stane." - RBW

Child Collection Index: Child Ballad 067: Glasgerion

Child ---Artist ---Title ---Album ---Year ---Length ---Have Rec
067 A.L. Lloyd Jack Orion English & Scottish Folk Ballads [1996] 1996 3:59 Yes
067 A.L. Lloyd Jack Orion Swarb! - Forty Five Years of Folk's Finest Fiddler - The Life and Music of Dave Swarbrick 2003 4:04 Yes
067 A.L. Lloyd Jack Orion First Person - Some of His Favourite Folk Songs 1966 3:59 Yes
067 A.L. Lloyd Jack Orion Classic A.L. Lloyd - Traditional Songs 1994 3:59 Yes
067 Artus Moser How the Squire Courted Nancy North Carolina Mountain Folksongs and Ballads 1974 3:54 Yes
067 Barry Lister Jack Orion Ghosts & Greasepaint 2006  No
067 Bert Jansch Jack Orion Jack Orion 2001 9:52 Yes
067 Carol Wood Glenkindie The Chaucer Songbook - Celtic Music and Early Music for Harp and Voice 2000  No
067 David Kilpatrick Jack O'Ryan O'er the Castle Wall 2001 6:57 Yes
067 Ewan MacColl Glasgerion Blood and Roses - Vol. 3 1982 6:25 Yes
067 Fairport Convention Jack O'Rion A.T.2 - The Reunion Concert/The Boot 2000 12:39 Yes
067 Fairport Convention Jack O'Rion [including: Turnabout/Tiree/Miss Stevenson's/Do It Again/March of the Last/Turnabout] The Bonny Bunch of Roses + Tipplers Tales 1992 10:56 Yes
067 Graham H Dodsworth Jack O'Rion In Good King Arthur's Day 1993 4:52 Yes
067 Harvestman Jack Orion Lashing the Rye 2005 6:45 Yes
067 Hedgehog Pie Jack Orion Hedgehog Pie 1975 4:52 Yes
067 John Faulkner & Sandra Kerr Jack Orion John & Sandra 1969  No
067 John Renbourn Jack Orion (edit) So Clear 1997 13:39 Yes
067 Jon Boden Jack Orion A Folk Song a Day - March 2011 4:15 Yes
067 Laura Cortese Jack Orion Even the Lost Creek 2006  No
067 Laura Cortese Jack Orion Blow the Candle Out 2007  No
067 Martin Carthy Jack Orion This Is .. Martin Carthy - the Bonny Black Hare and Other Songs 1971 4:10 Yes
067 Martin Carthy & Dave Swarbrick Jack Orion The Carthy Chronicles 2001 4:12 Yes
067 Martin Carthy & Dave Swarbrick Jack Orion But Two Came By 1968 4:12 Yes
067 Martin Carthy & Dave Swarbrick Jack Orion Selections [Carthy] 1969  No
067 Mary Jane Glasgerion Hazy Days 1996 4:53 Yes
067 Mary Thain Glenkindie The James Madison Carpenter Collection 1927-1955  No
067 Nancy Kerr & James Fagan Jack Orion + Rusty Jack Starry Gazy Pie 1998 4:43 Yes
067 Nancy Kerr & James Fagan Jack Orion + Rusty Jack Cutting Edge 2005  No
067 Orion Jack Orion Jack Orion 1988 2:57 Yes
067 Paul & Liz Davenport Glasgerion Spring Tide Rising 2011  No
067 Pentangle Jack Orion Cruel Sister 1970 18:38 Yes
067 Pentangle Jack Orion The Time Has Come - 1967-1973 2007 5:19 Yes
067 Pentangle Jack Orion Electric Eden - Unearthing Britain's Visionary Music 2012  No
067 Popeluc Jack Orion + Barbatesc Din Sapenta Blue Dor 1996  No
067 Sally Rogers & Howard Bursen Jack Orion Satisfied Customers 1984 3:48 Yes
067 Sid Kipper Jack Onion Like a Rhinestone Ploughboy 1993 4:50 Yes
067 The Flying Cloud Jack Orion Traditional Music from Ireland, England and Scotland 1978 5:19 Yes
067 The Satyrswitch Jack Orion The High Lonesome Sound of the Satyrswitch 2004  No
067 Trees Glasgerion The Garden of Jane Delawney 1970 5:18 Yes
067 Trees Glasgerion On the BBC 1970 4:58 Yes
067 Trees Glasgerion Electric Eden - Unearthing Britain's Visionary Music 2012  No 
 

Mainly Norfolk: English Folk and Other Good Music-- Jack Orion/ Glasgerion

[Roud 145; Child 67; Ballad Index C067; trad.]

 

A.L. Lloyd, accompanied on fiddle by Dave Swarbrick, sang Jack Orion on his 1966 LP First Person; this recording was later included on the Fellside anthology CD Classic A. L. Lloyd and in 2003 on the Dave Swarbrick anthology Swarb!. Lloyd commented in the original album's sleeve notes:

In the roll call of famous musicians the sonorous name of the Bardd Glas Geraint—Geraint, the Blue Bard—occurs. He was a ninth century Welsh harper of such legendary eminence that when Chaucer wrote his House of Fame he set “the Bret Clascurion” up in the minstrels' gallery alongside Orpheus and similar well known string-pickers. That was in the 1380s, some five hundred years after the harper's time, but his fame endured for much longer in the English folk ballad named Glasgerion, that by chance came to be called Glenkindie when it spread to Scotland. The ballad of Glasgerion dropped out of tradition long ago, but the story it tells is an engaging one (a modern and more democratic parallel is the well-liked Do Me Ama) and it seemed to me too good a song to be shut away in books, so I took it out and dusted it off a bit and set a tune to it and, I hope, started it on a new lease of life. Farm boys, tailors' apprentices, stable-grooms and other tricksters who overhear assignations and forestall the lover are standard stuff in folklore, but they don't usually come to such an unjustly sticky end as opportunistic Tom, the apprentice minstrel of our ballad. The fiddler Dave Swarbrick likes this one: does he see himself as Jack or Tom?

Martin Carthy sang Jack Orion on his 1968 album with Dave Swarbrick, But Two Came By, and it was included on both the compilation album This Is... Martin Carthy and on the definitive Martin Carthy anthology, The Carthy Chronicles. He commented in the original album's sleeve notes:

A.L. Lloyd has done exceptional work in many fields, especially, to my mind, in knocking into singable shape songs that were lost in tradition, but have attractive and not to say very powerful story lines: Jack Orion is such a one. It is a reworking of the ballad Glasgerion or Glenkindie, and has a story not unlike the sea song Domeama, but more detailed and with an exceedingly violent end. The song in its traditional form was, according to evidence at our disposal, not very widespread, which serves to highlight one of the curious features of the folk revival, that is, the many songs which were not at all common in tradition are very commonly sung in the revival and vice versa.

Another version was sung by Bert Jansch as title track of his Transatlantic album of 1966, Jack Orion.

Jon Boden sang Jack Orion as the March 18, 2011 entry of his project A Folk Song a Day. He noted in his blog:

Learnt from Bert Lloyd but the best version I've heard is Swarb and Carthy on The Carthy Chronicles. Mighty stuff.

Lyrics
A.L. Lloyd sings Jack Orion

Jack Orion was as good fiddler
As ever fiddled on a string,
And he could drive young women mad
With the tune his wires would sing.

He could fiddle the fish out of salt water
Or water from a marble stone,
Or the milk out of a maiden's breast
Though baby she had none.

So he sat and played in the castle hall
And fiddled them all so sound asleep,
Except it was for the young countess,
And for love she stayed awake.

And first he played a slow, slow air
And then he played it brisk and gay,
And, “O dear love,” behind her hand
This lady she did say.

“Ere the day has dawned and the cocks have crown
And flapped their wings so wide,
It's you may come up to my bedroom door
And stretch out at my side.”

So he lapped his fiddle in a cloth of green
And he stole out on his tip toe,
And he's off back to his young boy Tom
As fast as he could go.

“Ere the day has dawned and the cocks have crown
And flapped their wings so wide,
I;m bid to go to that lady's door
And stretch out at her side.”
 
“Well lie down, rest you, my good master,
Here's a blanket to your hand.
And I'll waken you in as good a time
As any cock in the land.”

And Tom took the fiddle into his hand,
Fiddled and he sang for a full hour,
Till he played his master fast asleep
And he's off to that lady's bower.

And when he come to the countess' door
He twirled so softly at the pin,
And the lady true to her promise
Rose up and let him in.

Well he didn't take that lady gay
To bolster or to bed,
But down upon her bedroom floor
Right soon he had her laid.

And he neither kissed her when he came
Nor yet when from her he did go,
But in and out of her bower window
The moon like a coal did glow.

“Oh ragged are your stockings, love,
And stubble is your cheek and chin,
And tangled is that yellow hair
That I saw late yestre'en.”

“My stockings belong to my boy Tom
And they were the first come to my hand,
And I tangled all my yellow hair
When coming against the wind”

He took his fiddle into his hand,
So saucy there he sang,
And he's off back to his own master
As fast as could run.

“Well up, well, my master dear,
For while you sleep and snore so loud
There's not a cock in all this land
But has flapped his wings and crowed.”

Jack Orion took the fiddle into his hand
And he fiddled and he played so merrily,
And he's off away to the lady's house
As fast as go could he.

Well, when he come to the lady's door
The fiddler twirled upon the pins,
Saying softly, “Here's your own true love,
Rise up and let me in.”

She says, “Surely you didn't leave behind
A bracelet or a velvet glove,
Or are you returned back again
To taste more of me love?”

Jack Orion swore a bloody oath,
“By oak and ash and bitter thorn,
Lady, I never was in your room
Since the day that I was born.”

“Oh then it was your little foot page
That falsely has beguiled me,
And woe that the blood of that ruffian boy
Should spring in my body.”

And home then went Jack Orion, crying,
“Tom, my lad, come here to me!”
And he hanged that boy from his own gatepost
High as the willow tree.

 Martin Carthy sings Jack Orion 

 Jack Orion was as good fiddler
As ever fiddled on a string,
And he could drive young women mad
By the tune his wires would sing.
 
 But he would fiddle the fish out of salt water,
Water from bare marble stone,
Or the milk from out of a maiden's breast
Though baby she had none.
 
 And there he played in the castle hall
And there he played them fast asleep,
Except it was for the young countess,
And for love she stayed awake.
 
 And first he played there a slow, slow air
And then he played it brisk and gay,
And it's, “O dear love,” behind her hand
The lady she did say.
 
 “Ere the day has dawned and the cocks have crown
And flapped their wings so wides,
It's you must come up to my chamber there
And lie down by my side.”
 
 So he lapped his fiddle in a cloth of green
And he stole out on his tip toe,
And he's off back to his young boy Tom
As fast as he could go.
 
 “Ere the day has dawned and the cocks have crown
And flapped their wings so wide,
I'm bid to go up to that lady's door
And stretch out by her side.”

 “Lie down, lie down, me good master
And here's a blanket to your hand.
And I'll waken you in as good a time
As any cock in the land.”
 
 So Tom took the fiddle into his hand
And he fiddled and he sang for a full hour,
Until he played him fast asleep
And he's off to the lady's bower.
 
 And when he come to the countess' door
He twirled so softly at the pin,
And the lady true to her promise
Rose up and let him in.
 
 Well he did not take that lady gay
To bolster nor to bed,
But down upon the hard cold bedroom floor
Right soon he had her laid.
 
 And neither did he kiss her when he came
Nor when from her he did go,
But in at the lady's bedroom window
The moon like a coal did glow.
 
 “Oh ragged are your stockings, love,
And stubbly is your cheek and chin,
And tousled is that yellow hair
That I saw late yestre'en.”
 
 “My stockings belong to my boy Tom
But they were the first came to my hand,
And the wind did tousle my yellow hair
As I rode over the land.”
 
 Tom took the fiddle into his hand
And he fiddled and he played so saucily,
And he's off back to his master's house
As fast as go could he.
 
 “Then up, then up, my good master,
Why snore you there so loud?
For there is not a cock in all this land
But has clapped his wings and crowed.”
 
 Jack Orion took the fiddle into his hand
And he fiddled and he played so merrily,
And he's off away to the lady's house
As fast as go could he.
 
 And when he come to the lady's door
He twirled so softly at the ring,
Saying, “Oh me dear it's your true love,
Rise up and let me in.”
 
 She said “Surely you didn't leave behind
A golden brooch nor a velvet glove,
Or are you returned back again
To taste more of me love?”
 
 Jack Orion he swore a bloody oath,
“By oak, by ash, by bitter thorn,
Lady, I never was in this room
Since the day that I was born.”
 
 “Oh then it was your own boy Tom
That cruelly has beguiled me,
And woe that the blood of that ruffian boy
Should spring in my body.”
 
 Jack Orion took off to his own house saying,
“Tom, my boy, come here to me!”
And he hanged that boy from his own gatepost
As high as the willow tree.
 

Acknowledgements
Transcribed by Garry Gillard. Thanks for suggestions to Wolfgang Hell and Susanne Kalweit. There are still a few small guesses and/or assumptions here. And then still more changes, thanks to Malcolm Douglas, from the Mudcat Café threads