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Long John/Lost John
Traditional Old-Time, Bluegrass; Breakdown and Song- Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky.
ARTIST: African-American folk version by Rev. Mose Platt, Clear Rock; 5/10/1939 Taylor, Texas from Lomax field recording;
CATEGORY: Fiddle and Instrumental Tunes; DATE: Early 1900’s;
RECORDING INFO: Columbia 15103 (78 RPM), Oliver Sims (1926). Columbia 15122-D (78 RPM), Burnett and Rutherford (1926). County 719, Kenny Baker- "Portrait of a Bluegrass Fiddler" (1968. Learned from his father). Mag 1018, Ted Powers- "Old Time Fiddler." Mississippi Department of Archives and History AH-002, Enos Canoy Band - "Great Big Yam Potatoes: Anglo-American Fiddle Music from Mississippi" (1985). Okeh 40391 (78 RPM), Henry Whitter (1928). Rounder 0034, Jim Gaskin. Rounder 1004, "The Songs of Dick Burnett and Leonard Rutherford." Vocalation 5441 (78 RPM), Stripling Brothers (Alabama) {1929}. Vocalation (78 RPM), Southern Moonlight Entertainers (Tenn.) {1930}.Baker, Kenny. Portrait of a Bluegrass Fiddler, County 719, LP (1968), cut# 5. Burnett and Rutherford. Ramblin' Reckless Hobo, Rounder 1004, LP, cut# 5. Canoy, Enos. Great Big Yam Potatoes. Anglo-American Fiddle Music from Missi., Southern Culture AH002, LP (1985), cut# 25. Cohen, Andy; and Joe LaRose. Tuxedo Blues, Green Linnet SIF 1033, LP (1981), cut# 9. Cousin Emmy (Cynthia May Carver). New Lost City Ramblers with Cousin Emmy, Folkways FTS 31015, LP (1968), cut# 8. Gregory, W. L.; and Clyde Davenport. Monticello, Davis Unlimited DU 33014, LP (1975), cut# 14. Hash, Albert; and the Whitetop Mountain Band. Whitetop, Heritage (Galax) 041, LP (198?), cut#A.01. Holt, David. It Just Suits Me, June Appal JA 0038, LP (1981), cut# 3. Iron Mountain String Band (Galax). Music from the Mountain, Heritage (Galax) 101C, Cas (1992), cut# 3. Kottke, Leo. Greenhouse, Capitol ST-11000, LP (197?), cut# 11. Martin, Asa; and the Cumberland Rangers. Dr. Ginger Blue, Rounder 0034, LP (1974), cut# 9. Parham, Red; & the Haywood County Ramblers. 37th Old-Annual Old-Time Fiddlers Convention, Folkways FA 2434, LP (1962), cut# 5. Pegram, George; and Parham, Red (Walter). Music From South Turkey Creek, Rounder 0065, LP (1976), cut#b-1. Pegram, George; and Parham, Red (Walter). Pickin' and Blowin', Riverside RLP 12-60, LP (195?), cut# 3. Poston, Mutt; and the Farm Hands. Hoe Down! Vol. 7. Fiddlin' Mutt Poston and the Farm Hands, Rural Rhythm RRFT 157, LP (197?), cut#B.13. Stamper, I.D.. Red Wing, June Appal JA 0010, LP (1977), cut# 5 . Stripling, Lee. Hogs Picking Up Acorns, Voyager VRCD 349, CD (2000), cut#19. Sutphin, Vernon. Stoneman Family Old Time Songs, Folkways FA 2315, Cas (1957), cut# 21. Terry, Sonny. Folk Box, Elektra EKL-9001, LP (1964), cut# 54. Watson, Doc. Doc Watson on Stage, Vanguard VSD 9/10, LP (1970), cut# 6 Bascom Lamar Lunsford (listed as "Lundsford"), "Lost John Dean" (Vocalion 5246, c. 1928; on TimesAint01)
RELATED TO: Walk Along John; Feather Bed; Blowing the Train; Ruben/Ruben's Train;
OTHER NAMES: "Lost Boy Blues," Lost John Dean from Bowling Green ; Long John; Long Gone; Long Gone from Kentucky
SOURCES: Kenny Baker [Brody], Rutherford and Burnett (Ky) [Kuntz], Ralph Troxell & Kenny Baker [Phillips]. Brody (Fiddler's Fakebook), 1983; pg. 178-179. Kuntz (Ragged but Right), 1987; pg. 269-270. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes), Vol. 2, 1995; pg. 81. Lomax-FSNA 287, "Long John". Lomax-ABFS, pp. 75-79, "Long Gone" Courlander-NFM, pp. 102-103, "(Lost John)"; p. 261, "Long John"; Handy/Silverman-Blues, pp. 200-202, "Long Gone"; Silber-FSWB, p. 68, "Long John"
NOTES: G Major. Standard. AB (Phillips): AAB (Brody, Kuntz). Mark Wilson reports that folklorist/musicologist Alan Lomax links these songs (plural, for there are several tunes which use this floating title) to ante-bellum folklore about the character of John the Trickster Slave.
Charles Wolfe remarks that the family of songs has several branches, including the old-timey 'hillbilly' song, a blues harmonica solo version by De Ford Bailey (Victor, 1920's), a vaudeville song ("Lost John Dean from Bowling Green"), and a work song "Wake Up, Dead Man"). Tom Rankin (1985) differentiates the different melodies using the title: Enos Canoy, Burnett and Rutherford, Henry Whitter, De Ford Bailey and Oliver Sims' (the latter three are harmonica versions. Enos Canoy originally learned the tune on the harmonica and transferred it to the fiddle). The tune was recorded by the Northwest Alabamian (Fayette) of August 29, 1929, as likely to be played at an upcoming fiddlers' convention (Cauthen, 1990).
The Lomaxes believe this to be based on the story (coming from W. C. Handy's book "Blues"; see page 215 in Handy/Silverman) of one Long John Green, who was known for his ability to move. When the prison where Green was staying acquired a pack of bloodhounds, they allegedly decided to conduct a test by giving him a head start and then sending the hounds after him. But Green was too fast (he also managed to trick the hounds by catching one in a trap), and escaped them.
Here are the lyrics to “Lost John” from Rev. Mose Platt:
It's like a turkey through the corn
Long John, I’m gone again,
Wait right here ‘til the ‘larm goes on,
‘Larm goes on I’ll be gone again.
Long John Long John
I’m gone again, Long John
Wait until the choir ‘til I catch my wind,
Catch my wind, I’m gone again,
Long John, Long John,
Long John
Viewed on a tree
Tree wouldn’t fall
Lake was small wouldn’t fall at all.
It’s Long John
Gone again, Long John.
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