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Grapevine Twist/Sugar in my Coffee/Sugar in my Coffee-O/Wouldn't Give Me Sugar in My Coffee/I Like Sugar in my Coffee-O
Old-Time Song and Breakdown, Widely known.
ARTIST: Harlan Miner's Fiddlers AKA Crockett's Kentucky Mountaineers with John Crockett Sr. and family on Montgomery Ward M 3023: Issued February 1940; The song was recorded in Jan/Feb 1931 and probably was release under the alternative name- Harlan Miner's Fiddlers in 1940.
CATEGORY: Fiddle and Instrumental Tunes
DATE: 1843 as “Dandy Jim from Caroline.” First recording as Sugar in My Coffee-O by Crockett's Kentucky Mountaineers, "Sugar in my Coffee" (Crown 3075, c. 1930); First recording as What are You Going To Do With the Baby 1928 by the Hodge Brothers; then Grayson & Whittier in 1929; First recording as Prettiest Little Gal in the County by Gid Tanner and Riley Puckett in 1924
RECORDING INFO: Wouldn't Give Me Sugar in My Coffee-O Macon, Uncle Dave. Wait Till the Clouds Roll By, Historical HLP-8006, LP (1975), trk# 9 [1926/09/08] (She Wouldn't Give Me Sugar in my Coffee)
RECORDING INFO: I'll Take Sugar in My Coffee-O Jester Hairston: DePaur Chorus. Bicentennial Celebration, Columbia M 33838, LP (1975), trk# B.05
RECORDING INFO: Sugar in My Coffee-O (Fiddle version related to Cotton-Eyed Joe) Davenport, Clyde. Puncheon Camps, Appalachian Center Ser. AC 002, Cas (1992), trk# 2; Davenport, Clyde. Puncheon Camps, Appalachian Center Ser. AC 002, Cas (1992), trk# 3; Durham, Mel. Silberberg, Gene (ed.) / Complete Fiddle Tunes I Either Did or Did Not.., Silberberg, Fol (2005), p189; Johnson, Vesta Wilson. Blue Flame, Marimac 9057, Cas (1994/1991), trk# B.08; Enloe, Lyman. Fiddle Tunes I Recall, County 762, LP (1977/1973), trk# 4; Holt, Bob. Got a Little Home to Go To, Rounder 0432, CD (1999), trk# 9b; Reed, Frank. Christeson, R. P. / Old Time Fiddlers Reportory, Vol. 2, University of Missouri, Bk (1984), #129 [1970s]; Stecher, Jody; and Kate Brislin. Our Town, Rounder 0304C, Cas (1993), trk# 3c 05; Crockett's Kentucky Mountaineers, "Sugar in my Coffee" (Crown 3075, c. 1930)
RECORDING INFO: Prettiest Little Girl/Gal in the County-O/Country/World Blake, Norman and Nancy. Blind Dog, Rounder 0254-C, Cas (1988), trk# 3; Davenport, Clyde. Puncheon Camps, Appalachian Center Ser. AC 002, Cas (1992), trk# 11; Griffin, Mrs. G. A.. Morris, Alton C. / Folksongs of Florida, Univ. Florida, Bk (1950), p226/#136 [1934-39]; Phelps, Jake; and Street Butler. Titon, Jeff Todd / Old Time Kentucky Fiddle Tunes, Kentucky, Bk/ (2001), p156/#129 [1965/08/10] 14. Tanner, Gordon. Rosenbaum, Art (ed.) / Folk Visions & Voices. Traditional Music & So...., University of Georgia, Bk (1983), p111 [1981/12/19]; What'll I Do With the/this Baby-O [Sh 228/Me II-A30] Gordon Tanner (Dacula, Gwinnett County, Georgia) [Rosenbaum]; Jake Phelps and Street Butler (Pea Ridge, Todd County, Ky., 1965) [Titon]. Rosenbaum (Folk Visions and Voices: Traditional Music and Song in North Georgia), 1989; pg. 111. Titon (Old Time Kentucky Fiddle Tunes), 2001; No. 129, pg. 156. Berea College Appalachian Center AC002, Clyde Davenport – “Puncheon Camps” (1992). Columbia 15315 (78 RPM), Clayton McMichen (1928). Davis Unlimited DU 32028, W.L. Gregory – “Homemade Stuff” (1978). Folkways FTS 31062, "Ship in the Clouds: Old Time Instrumental Music" (1978. Learned from the Gid Tanner and Riley Puckett recording). Rounder 1023, Gid Tanner and His Skillet Lickers (North Ga.), "The Kickapoo Medecine Show" (1980, originally recorded 1924). Rounder CD-0388, Gene Goforth – “Emminence Breakdown” (1997). Voyager VRLP 328-S, "Kenny Hall and the Long Haul String Band" (learned from the 1924 Skillet Lickers recording). Recorded for the Library of Congress by W.A. Bledsoe (Meridian, Mississippi), 1939.
RECORDING INFO: What'll We Do With the Baby-O Seeger, Ruth Crawford / American Folk Songs for Children, Doubleday/Zephyr Books, Sof (1948), p.146 Winds of the People, Sing Out, Sof (1982), p 84; Blood, Peter; and Annie Patterson (eds.) / Rise Up Singing, Sing Out, Sof (1992/1989), p113; Barnes, Peter (ed.) / English Country Dance Tunes, Barnes, Fol (1986), -- (What Shall We Do with the Baby-O?); Bingham, Estill. Titon, Jeff Todd / Old Time Kentucky Fiddle Tunes, Kentucky, Bk/ (2001), p192/#166 [1986-87] (What Shall We Do with the Baby-O?); Boosinger, Laura. My Carolina Home, Upstream UP 888, CD (1990), trk# 6 (What'll We Do With the Baby-O); Chapman, Owen "Snake". Devil's Box, Devil's Box, Ser, 30/1, p30b(1996) [1991] (What You Gonna Do With the Baby); Collins, Mitzie. Sampler of Folk Music, Sampler aafm 7601, LP (1976), trk# B.03 (What'll We Do With the Baby-O); Crooked Road. Generations, Spencer, CD (2004), trk# 30 (Baby-O); Gaponoff, Mark. Silberberg, Gene (ed.) / Complete Fiddle Tunes I Either Did or Did Not.., Silberberg, Fol (2005), p209 (What'cha Goin' to Do with the Baby); Glazer, Tom. Glazer, Tom / Eye Winker, Tom Tinker, Chin Chopper. Fifty Musical Fin..., Doubleday/Zephyr Books, Bk (1973), p86 (What Will We Do With the Baby-O); Grayson, G. B.. Phillips, Stacy; & Kenny Kosak / Bluegrass Fiddle Styles, Oak, fol (1978), p 7 [1929] (What You Gonna Do With the Baby); Grayson and Whitter. Recordings of Grayson and Whitter, County 513, LP (196?), trk# 10 [1929/10/01] (Whatcha Gonna Do with the Baby); Hall, Kenny; & the Long Haul String Band. Kenny Hall and the Long Haul String band, Voyager VRLP 328-S, LP (198?), trk# 5 (What You Gonna Do With the Baby); Ives, Burl. Lollipop Tree, Harmony HS 14551, LP (197?), trk# B.07; Jarrell, Tommy. Pickin' on Tommy's Porch, County 778, LP (1984), trk# 12 (What You Gonna Do With the Baby); Kazee, Buell. Buell Kazee, June Appal JA 0009, LP (1977), trk# 6c; Kincaid, Bradley. Mountain Ballads and Old Time Solos. Album Number Six, Bluebonnet BL 123, LP (1963), trk# A.04 [1963/07ca]; Kossoy Sisters. Bowling Green and Other Folksongs from the Southern Mountains, Tradition TLP 1018, LP (1956), trk# 10 (What You Gonna Do With the Baby); Kossoy Sisters. Banjo Music of the Southern Appalachians, Olympic OL-6173, LP (196?), trk# B.05 (What Will We Do With the Baby-O); Langstaff, John. Langstaff, John / Lark in the Morning, Revels CD 2004, CD (2004), trk# 24 [1949-56] (What'll We Do With the Baby-O); Mainer, J. E. (Joseph Emmet). Legendary J. E. Mainer. Vol 4, Rural Rhythm RRJE 208, LP (196?), trk# B.03; Mainer's Mountaineers (J. E. Mainer's Mountaineers). Good Ole Mountain Music, King 666, LP (196?/1946), trk# 1 [1946/06]; New Lost City Ramblers. Cohen, John, Mike Seeger & Hally Wood / Old Time String Band Songbook, Oak, Sof (1976/1964), p162; Philo Glee & Mandolin Society. Philo Glee & Mandolin Society, Campus Folksong Club CFC 101, LP (1962?), trk# B.09; Proffitt, Frank. Rosenbaum, Art / Old-Time Mountain Banjo, Oak, sof (1968), p61 (Baby-O); Ritchie, Jean. Folk Festival at Newport. Vol. 3, Vanguard VRS 9064, LP (1960?), trk# A.02 (What'll We Do With the Baby-O) ; Ritchie, Jean. Saturday Night and Sunday Too, Riverside RLP 12-620, LP (1956), trk# A.03 (Baby-O) ; Ritchie, Jean. Ritchie, Jean / Dulcimer Book, Oak, sof (1963), p33 ; Ritchie, Jean. Ritchie, Jean / Dulcimer People, Oak, sof (1975), p104; Ritchie, Jean. Sing Out! Reprints, Sing Out, Sof (196?), 5, p 7 (Prettiest Little Baby in the County-O); Ritchie, Jean; and Doc Watson. Jean Ritchie and Doc Watson At Folk City, Smithsonian/Folkways SF 40005, LP (1990), trk# 13; Seeger, Mike; and Paul Brown. Way Down in North Carolina, Rounder 0383, CD (1996), trk# 10; Seeger, Peggy and Mike. American Folk Songs for Children, Rounder 8001/8002/8003, CD (1977), trk# 2-21 (What'll We Do With the Baby-O); Singh, Dev. Co-op Hootenanny, CCB, LP (1965), trk# B.08 (What'll We Do With the Baby-O); Sizemore, Asher; and Little Jimmy. Songs of the Soil, Old Homestead OHCS 153, LP (1984), trk# 2.2e; Sizemore, Asher; and Little Jimmy. Sizemore, Asher; and Little Jimmy / Old Fashioned Hynns and Mountain .., Sizemore, Sof (1933), p18; Sizemore, Asher; and Little Jimmy. Sizemore, Asher; and Little Jimmy / Favorite Mountain Ballads & Old T..., Sizemore, fol (1932), p 1; Smith, Winifred. Simple Gifts, Tennessee Squire Assoc TFA 64440, LP (196?), trk# 7; Wilson, Alice. Sharp & Karpeles / English Folk Songs from the Southern Appalachians II, Oxford, Bk (1932/1917), p336/# 228 [1917/08/27] (What'll We Do With the Baby-O); Baby-O [Sh 228/Me II-A30] - Driftwood, Jimmie; Jones, Grandpa. What's for Supper?, Monument KZ 32939, LP (1973), trk# 7 (What'll I Do With the/this Baby-O) [G. B.] Grayson & [Henry] Whitter, "What You Gonna Do with the Baby?" (Victor V-40268, 1930); Happy-Go-Lucky Boys, "Whatcha Gonna Do With the Baby?" (Bluebird B-8391, 1940); J. E. Mainer's Mountaineers, "What You Gonna Do With the Baby-O?" (King 538, 1946); Frank Proffitt, "Baby-O" (Proffitt03); Jean Ritchie & Roger Sprung, "What'll I Do With the Baby-O?" (on RitchieWatson1, RitchieWatsonCD1)
RELATED TO: Cornstalk Fiddle and a Shoestring Bow; Prettiest Little Girl/Gal in the County-O/Country/World; What'cha Goin' to Do with the Baby; Baby-O; Hell Up Hickory Holler; Who’s Been Here Since I’ve Been Gone?
OTHER NAMES: Wouldn't Give Me Sugar in My Coffee-O; She Wouldn't Give Me Sugar in my Coffee; Old Aunt Jenny; Turkey Buzzard; Prosperity Breakdown; Goin' Down to Georgie-O ; What'll I Do With the/this Baby-O
SOURCES: Sugar in my Coffee Meade; Folk Index; Kuntz; Mudcat Forum; Randolph 565, "Sugar in my Coffee" (1 fragment, 1 tune); BrownIII 92, "I Do Love Sugar in My Coffee O" (2 short texts); Roud #7659; Ruth (Pioneer Western Folk Tunes), 1948; No. 77, pg. 28. Thede (The Fiddle Book), 1967; pg. 106. Global Village C-302, Midnight Cowtippers - "New York City's Annual String Band Contest - November 1984."
SOURCES: What'll I Do with the Baby-O Cohen/Seeger/Wood, p. 162, "What'll I Do with the Baby-O" (1 text, 1 tune); Pankake-PHCFSB, p. 234, "Charlie, Won't You Rock the Cradle" (1 text); Silber-FSWB, p. 407, "Prettiest Little Baby In The County-O"; 408, "What'll We Do With The Baby-O?" Roud #826
NOTES: Typical lyrics found in the chorus are “How in the world do the old folks know/That I like sugar in my coffee-o.” Sugar in my Coffee-O is one of a large group of songs that originated from the chorus of Dandy Jim from Caroline:
DANDY JIM FROM CAROLINE- 1843
For my ole massa tole me so,
I was de best lookin *feller in de County-O,
I look in de glass an I found it so,
Jus what massa told me-O.
*edited for racial content
Dandy Jim from Caroline was published in 1844 by at least six publishers, and in New York and Boston as well as in Baltimore. By different publishers it was attributed it to Chas. Reps, Dan Emmet, Geo. F. Bristow and J. T. Norton. The lyrics differ somewhat from publisher to publisher. Parodies of the popular song appeared in several broadside editions:
THE GAL IN THE CABBAGE LINE
A Parody on "Dandy Jim from Caroline."
My darling Jane, I'd have you know,
Is the beauty of the city-o,
She doesn't dress so very fine,
But she's the darling of the cabbage line.
For my old Mommy told me-o,
I was the best looking gal in the city-o
I looked in her face, I found it so,
Just as my Mommy told me-o
There are three distinct branches of songs that have evolved from Dandy Jim from Caroline. Because they are from the same family the titles and lyrics are interrelated. There are different versions from both black and white sources:
1) The Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O: Includes the titles “Prettiest Little Gal in the Country-O” and “Prettiest Gal in the County-O.” Recorded by Skillet Lickers in 1924.
2) Sugar in my Coffee-O: Includes the titles Sugar in my Coffee/Sugar in my Coffee-O Wouldn't Give Me Sugar in My Coffee/I Like Sugar in my Coffee-O;
3) What’ll We Do With The Baby-O: Titles include “Baby-O.” There are more recordings in this branch.
From Kuntz: Bayard (1981) thinks there is a relationship between Sugar in my Coffee-O and his Pennsylvania-collected sets of "Up Jumped Jinny With Her Shirt Tail Torn" and this tune. The title appears in a list of traditional Ozark Mountain fiddle tunes compiled by musicologist/folklorist Vance Randolph, published in 1954.
African-American collector Thomas Talley, in his book Negro Folk Rhymes (reprinted 1991, edited by Charles Wolfe), prints a song called "Sugar in Coffee" that is related to this song, and predates white recorded versions such as Tennessee's Uncle Dave Macon's ("She Wouldn't Give Me Sugar in My Coffee") and Georgia's Fiddlin' John Carson's ("Little More Sugar in My Coffee").
The “Prettiest Girl in the County-O” tune is similar in its melodic contour to "What're We Gonna Do with the Baby-O" and to “Turkey Buzzard.” R.P. Christeson notes similarity to his “Sugar in the Coffee” (Old Time Fiddler’s Repertory, vol. II, No. 129). "A popular 19th century fiddle and play party tune well remembered by older informants across the South" (Charles Wolfe). Jeff Titon says the tune is generally well known in the South, but not frequently found in the repertoires of Kentucky fiddlers. Alan and Elizabeth Lomax recorded the tune for the Library of Congress from the playing of fiddler George C. Nicholson. See also Thomas Tally’s No. 41. [Kuntz]
Meade shows a relationship with Cornstalk Fiddle and a Shoestring Bow/Who’s Been Here Since I’ve Been Gone?/Pretty Little Girl with the Blue Dress On songs to the "Sugar in Coffee" family of songs. Meade also references “Prettiest Little Girl in the County-O” songs to "Dandy Jim from Caroline."
Since the Skillet Lickers recorded “Prettiest Little Gal in the County-O” in 1924, with the “I like sugar in the coffee-o” lyrics, it seem likely that most of the “Sugar in the Coffee” titles and songs came from that recording. Many of the early country groups would play the same song under a different title to avoid copyright problems. They would also change some of the lyrics.
The first recordings of “What are You Going To Do With the Baby?” were made in 1928 by the Hodge Brothers and then by Grayson & Whittier in 1929. Cecil Sharp collected a version in 1917. Most of the lyrics today use dark humor regarding the fate of the poor baby- even Jean Ritchie gave the baby "moonshine" in her song lyrics.
Ed Thomas' version (below) is listed by Meade as a version of "Who's Been Here Since I've Been Gone?" also known as "Cornstalk Fiddle and Shoestring Bow" and "Pretty Little Girl with eh Blue Dress on." Meade lists "Gate to Go Through" by Jimmie Johnson as a version.
NOTES: Harlan Miner's Fiddlers AKA Crocket's Kentucky Mountainer recorded this song which is the fiddle dance song, Grapevine Twist, with calls/lyrics. It resembles Steve and His Hotshots hot version of Grapevine Twist. Here are some notes by Kuntz:
GRAPE VINE TWIST [1]. American, "Sand Jig" (4/4 time). G Major. Standard tuning. AB (Cole): AA'BB' (Kerr). A tune by this name was learned by minstrel banjoist Fred Mather from Southerner (and famous banjo player) Joel Sweeney in 1846 or 1847. Sweeney, who came north every two years as a musician with a circus, had a drop thumb technique learned from his family’s Virginia slaves. Hans Nathan (Dan Emmett and Negro Minstrelsy, Univ. of Oklahoma Press, 1962, pg. 93) records the ‘Grape Vine Twist’ was one of the dances or series of dance steps of the blackface minstrel era. See also the related tune “Cornstalk Fiddle (and Shoestring Bow).” Cole (1000 Fiddle Tunes), 1940; pg. 84. Kerr (Merry Melodies), vol. 2; No. 416, pg. 47. Ryan’s Mammoth Collection, 1883; pg. 117. White’s Unique Collection, 1896; No. 33, pg. 6.
GRAPEVINE TWIST [2]. Old-Time, Breakdown. A Major. Standard tuning. AABBCCDDEDD. Source for notated version: Steve and His Hotshots [Phillips]. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes), vol. 2, 1995; pg. 58.
Here are the lyrics to “Sugar in my Coffee” from Harlan Miner's Fiddler's:
"Sugar In My Coffee" by "Harlan Miners Fiddlers"
Montgomery Ward M 3023 Recorded: Unknown Issued: February 1940
(Square dance calls)
Gather round that old grapevine
You swing you’re girl I’ll swing mine
Chase the rabbit Chase that Squirrel
Chase that pretty girl ’round the world
Chase that possum chase that coon
Chase that old man round the room
Chicken in the breadpan pickin’ out dough
Granny does your dog bite no child no
Swing that gal from Arkansaw
Swing the gal and brother-in-law
Hurry up boys and shake a leg
When we get through we’ll hit that keg.
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